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		<title>By: Is the Economy in Unchartered Territory? &#124; Jim Kopas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is the Economy in Unchartered Territory? &#124; Jim Kopas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unchartered Territory?  October 27th, 2009  Goto comments Leave a comment      Last weeks entry “The Recession is Over- Stronger than Expected Recovery Underway” sparked quite a controversy among readers.  I received numerous comments that disagreed with my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Kopas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Kopas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-44&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Prad &lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-43&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Tom Humes &lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-42&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Stacey Derbinshire &lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-41&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Sue Massey &lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-40&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Randy Pena &lt;/a&gt; 

Thanks for your comments about my blog. I can see by the message boards and Prads comment that this post has been very controversial. The biggest argument that I have faced is how can there possibly be a recovery with the astonishing unemployment numbers.  As discussed in the newsletter Unemployment is a lagging indicator and will begin to improve after the economy has bottomed.  

Jeffery Saut of Raymond James Financial illustrates this point, “As for the all the &quot;doubters&quot; we encountered last week, who keep pointing to the rising unemployment numbers, we reminded them that employment is at the back-end of the cycle. Nevertheless, their chant goes like this, &quot;how can we have a durable economic recovery when consumers account for roughly 70% of the economy; and, unemployment continues to rise while consumers continue to leave their &quot;billfolds on their hips?&quot; Ladies and gentlemen, the typical economic recovery is driven by corporate profits, not consumption! Those profits turn into the &quot;investments&quot; that foster a capital expenditure cycle, which eventually spurs corporate hiring. That&#039;s the typical sequence and we think it plays that way this time. Verily, corporate profits are surging, which should stimulate more than just the &quot;inventory rebuild&quot; the naysayers suggest will quickly peter out. Accordingly, we think there will be a more durable capex cycle followed by the envisioned improvement in employment, which will indeed drive consumption.&quot;  

I am not trying to argue that everything is fine and dandy or that there will be an immediate turn around but I see the signs that things are getting better.  Hopefully by this time next year we all the doubters will finally be feeling better about the economy. 

A good website to visit for more information about leading/ lagging indicators and business cycle research in general is: http://www.businesscycle.com/resources/ 

In addition, there is a great report by NPR with Lakshman Achuthan (Managing Director at the Economic Cycle Research Institute) that discusses the state of the economy and the signs of improvement.  
http://www.businesscycle.com/news/press/1596/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-44" rel="nofollow">@Prad </a> </p>
<p><a href="#comment-43" rel="nofollow">@Tom Humes </a> </p>
<p><a href="#comment-42" rel="nofollow">@Stacey Derbinshire </a> </p>
<p><a href="#comment-41" rel="nofollow">@Sue Massey </a> </p>
<p><a href="#comment-40" rel="nofollow">@Randy Pena </a> </p>
<p>Thanks for your comments about my blog. I can see by the message boards and Prads comment that this post has been very controversial. The biggest argument that I have faced is how can there possibly be a recovery with the astonishing unemployment numbers.  As discussed in the newsletter Unemployment is a lagging indicator and will begin to improve after the economy has bottomed.  </p>
<p>Jeffery Saut of Raymond James Financial illustrates this point, “As for the all the &#8220;doubters&#8221; we encountered last week, who keep pointing to the rising unemployment numbers, we reminded them that employment is at the back-end of the cycle. Nevertheless, their chant goes like this, &#8220;how can we have a durable economic recovery when consumers account for roughly 70% of the economy; and, unemployment continues to rise while consumers continue to leave their &#8220;billfolds on their hips?&#8221; Ladies and gentlemen, the typical economic recovery is driven by corporate profits, not consumption! Those profits turn into the &#8220;investments&#8221; that foster a capital expenditure cycle, which eventually spurs corporate hiring. That&#8217;s the typical sequence and we think it plays that way this time. Verily, corporate profits are surging, which should stimulate more than just the &#8220;inventory rebuild&#8221; the naysayers suggest will quickly peter out. Accordingly, we think there will be a more durable capex cycle followed by the envisioned improvement in employment, which will indeed drive consumption.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I am not trying to argue that everything is fine and dandy or that there will be an immediate turn around but I see the signs that things are getting better.  Hopefully by this time next year we all the doubters will finally be feeling better about the economy. </p>
<p>A good website to visit for more information about leading/ lagging indicators and business cycle research in general is: <a href="http://www.businesscycle.com/resources/" rel="nofollow">http://www.businesscycle.com/resources/</a> </p>
<p>In addition, there is a great report by NPR with Lakshman Achuthan (Managing Director at the Economic Cycle Research Institute) that discusses the state of the economy and the signs of improvement.<br />
<a href="http://www.businesscycle.com/news/press/1596/" rel="nofollow">http://www.businesscycle.com/news/press/1596/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Prad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh!... I wonder how all 4 above responses came almost at same hour? Also blog looks like typical trick to create over optimism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh!&#8230; I wonder how all 4 above responses came almost at same hour? Also blog looks like typical trick to create over optimism.</p>
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